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ranrataGeekery mode on! I feel the urge to write down my personal timeline for House and my justifications. I'll just keep adding to this post and linking back every time the topic comes up instead of repeating my arguments...
House and Wilson met eight years before the start of the show. That's my argument and I'm sticking to it. So what if they've "only" known each other for ten years (as of this season) - it's incredibly, incredibly likely that much of the depth and twistedness of their friendship began during the infarction period.
Keep in mind there are things I like to believe (like when Wilson married his wives), but I'm trying to limit the amount of pure speculation and the amount of facts thrown out.
Some quotes are approximated, but only until I find the energy to find the exact one. Slightly alternative theory (thanks,![[insanejournal.com profile]](http://www.insanejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif)
tubesox13!) in blue, which I'm beginning to lean towards more...
1994
- House is unable to diagnose Ester (All In) [12 years before S2; also note House went a little whacky on multiple patients after this, so Wilson probably asked him what was his problem, and that is how he learned about Ester]
1995
- Last time Wilson sees his brother (Histories) [Nine years before S1]
- House is hired at PPTH by previous Dean of Medicine ("You're a jerk, I'm a lawyer, there's overlap." If House really met Stacy in the paintball match, it had to be early on, otherwise he would have met her during work.)
- House meets Stacy at a doctors-vs-lawyers paintball match (Son of a Coma Guy) [I'm assuming the strip joint thing was a joke, since he also insisted Stacy was a stripper.]
- House and Stacy go on one date; Stacy hates him (Honeymoon)
- Stacy moves in with House a week later (Honeymoon)
1996
- House is hired by Cuddy at PPTH (eight years before S1, mentioned in Vogler arc)
o House and Wilson probably meet for the first time
o Wilson is either already married to wife #1, or marries her after this point (Fools For Love) [House: You sprinted through 3 bad marriages - so they are each short and in succession; House also mentions Wilson's first wife specifically in Resignation - House probably at least met all three wives.]
1997
1998
1999
- House is fired from PPTH (1995-1999, four years, plus 2000-2004, eight years total, as mentioned in Vogler arc)
- Cuddy, 32 (using Lisa Edelstein's age), becomes Dean of Medicine (or the following year)
2000
- House's infarction [five years ago from the end of S1/start of S2]
- Stacy leaves House after a few months (Hunting, Humpty Dumpty) [House says she switched cigarette brands after a month; he also says "in the last months of our relationship"]
- Wilson steps in to help House, still in rehab (Need to Know, ?) [House says Stacy wouldn't leave Mark in the middle of rehab, Wilson says she left him; Wilson says he "picked up the pieces."]
- House is made department head; alternatively, House is re-hired by Cuddy, who is now Dean of Medicine (Detox) [Cuddy mentions him taking vicodin when she hired him - fanwank that she meant when she made him a department head. Hey!]
2001
2002
2003
2004 (Start of the series)
2005
2006
- Wilson and Julie divorce
2007 (You Are Here)
General
Wilson's marriages were short (probably 2-3 years max), and took place between ~1996 (when he meets House) and 2006 (when he divorces Julie). Marriage #1 probably ended well before the infarction in 2000, so Wilson could have married Bonnie anytime between a bit before that (which I think is a bit more likely) to a bit afterwards. Wilson is already married to Julie at the start of the series in 2004, so he could have married her anytime after the infarction and right before the start of the show.
Fanwank
Stacy used to work at PPTH (Cuddy says she could use her "back here" in Honeymoon); she and Wilson seem to be friendly enough to have known each other before meeting House. So Stacy and Wilson were at PPTH and knew each other, then Stacy meets House. House gets fired again, Stacy probably goes to Cuddy ("You know that genius Dr. House...?" Of course Cuddy does *nudge nudge wink wink* even though Stacy doesn't know that; and I in no way believe House's claim in Top Secret that she hired him because of the sex), Cuddy hires him, House meets Wilson.
The Two Theories
#1 (Black) - House is working at another hospital when he meets Stacy during the paintball match. When he gets fired, Stacy probably mentions him to Cuddy, who remembers him, so she hires him, and that's when House meets Wilson. After the infarction, Cuddy promotes him to department head.
#2 (Blue) - House is hired at PPTH by the previous Dean of Medicine, and meets Stacy shortly afterwards. About a year later, Wilson is hired, and he meets House. After four years, House gets fired for whatever reason, then the has the infarction. Cuddy becomes Dean and re-hires House, making him a department head.
The 17 Year Timeline (Added 8/23/07)
I still can't buy this - it hurts more than it helps, in terms of making sense of the already whacked-out timeline. The only line in the series that almost persuaded me was in Kids when Wilson mentions "every woman you've [House] given a damn about," which only makes since if Wilson has known House long enough to see every woman he's given a damn about - and post-Stacy, well, there were no women.
But, nitpicking...Twice in the series it's mentioned Wilson is paying alimony to all of his wives (the second time being in Housetraining, when Bonnie no longer wants alimony). If his first marriage occurred when he was college-age and was short, it seems incredibly unlikely he'd still be paying out to #1; if his marriage to Bonnie was also short, it also seems unlikely she would receive alimony for so long. It makes more sense if he married them all within the last decade.
Go ahead and try to poke holes in my theories. It only makes them stronger! No, seriously. Go ahead.
House and Wilson met eight years before the start of the show. That's my argument and I'm sticking to it. So what if they've "only" known each other for ten years (as of this season) - it's incredibly, incredibly likely that much of the depth and twistedness of their friendship began during the infarction period.
Keep in mind there are things I like to believe (like when Wilson married his wives), but I'm trying to limit the amount of pure speculation and the amount of facts thrown out.
Some quotes are approximated, but only until I find the energy to find the exact one. Slightly alternative theory (thanks,
tubesox13!) in blue, which I'm beginning to lean towards more...1994
- House is unable to diagnose Ester (All In) [12 years before S2; also note House went a little whacky on multiple patients after this, so Wilson probably asked him what was his problem, and that is how he learned about Ester]
1995
- Last time Wilson sees his brother (Histories) [Nine years before S1]
- House is hired at PPTH by previous Dean of Medicine ("You're a jerk, I'm a lawyer, there's overlap." If House really met Stacy in the paintball match, it had to be early on, otherwise he would have met her during work.)
- House meets Stacy at a doctors-vs-lawyers paintball match (Son of a Coma Guy) [I'm assuming the strip joint thing was a joke, since he also insisted Stacy was a stripper.]
- House and Stacy go on one date; Stacy hates him (Honeymoon)
- Stacy moves in with House a week later (Honeymoon)
1996
- House is hired by Cuddy at PPTH (eight years before S1, mentioned in Vogler arc)
o House and Wilson probably meet for the first time
o Wilson is either already married to wife #1, or marries her after this point (Fools For Love) [House: You sprinted through 3 bad marriages - so they are each short and in succession; House also mentions Wilson's first wife specifically in Resignation - House probably at least met all three wives.]
1997
1998
1999
- House is fired from PPTH (1995-1999, four years, plus 2000-2004, eight years total, as mentioned in Vogler arc)
- Cuddy, 32 (using Lisa Edelstein's age), becomes Dean of Medicine (or the following year)
2000
- House's infarction [five years ago from the end of S1/start of S2]
- Stacy leaves House after a few months (Hunting, Humpty Dumpty) [House says she switched cigarette brands after a month; he also says "in the last months of our relationship"]
- Wilson steps in to help House, still in rehab (Need to Know, ?) [House says Stacy wouldn't leave Mark in the middle of rehab, Wilson says she left him; Wilson says he "picked up the pieces."]
- House is made department head; alternatively, House is re-hired by Cuddy, who is now Dean of Medicine (Detox) [Cuddy mentions him taking vicodin when she hired him - fanwank that she meant when she made him a department head. Hey!]
2001
2002
2003
2004 (Start of the series)
2005
2006
- Wilson and Julie divorce
2007 (You Are Here)
General
Wilson's marriages were short (probably 2-3 years max), and took place between ~1996 (when he meets House) and 2006 (when he divorces Julie). Marriage #1 probably ended well before the infarction in 2000, so Wilson could have married Bonnie anytime between a bit before that (which I think is a bit more likely) to a bit afterwards. Wilson is already married to Julie at the start of the series in 2004, so he could have married her anytime after the infarction and right before the start of the show.
Fanwank
Stacy used to work at PPTH (Cuddy says she could use her "back here" in Honeymoon); she and Wilson seem to be friendly enough to have known each other before meeting House. So Stacy and Wilson were at PPTH and knew each other, then Stacy meets House. House gets fired again, Stacy probably goes to Cuddy ("You know that genius Dr. House...?" Of course Cuddy does *nudge nudge wink wink* even though Stacy doesn't know that; and I in no way believe House's claim in Top Secret that she hired him because of the sex), Cuddy hires him, House meets Wilson.
The Two Theories
#1 (Black) - House is working at another hospital when he meets Stacy during the paintball match. When he gets fired, Stacy probably mentions him to Cuddy, who remembers him, so she hires him, and that's when House meets Wilson. After the infarction, Cuddy promotes him to department head.
#2 (Blue) - House is hired at PPTH by the previous Dean of Medicine, and meets Stacy shortly afterwards. About a year later, Wilson is hired, and he meets House. After four years, House gets fired for whatever reason, then the has the infarction. Cuddy becomes Dean and re-hires House, making him a department head.
The 17 Year Timeline (Added 8/23/07)
I still can't buy this - it hurts more than it helps, in terms of making sense of the already whacked-out timeline. The only line in the series that almost persuaded me was in Kids when Wilson mentions "every woman you've [House] given a damn about," which only makes since if Wilson has known House long enough to see every woman he's given a damn about - and post-Stacy, well, there were no women.
But, nitpicking...Twice in the series it's mentioned Wilson is paying alimony to all of his wives (the second time being in Housetraining, when Bonnie no longer wants alimony). If his first marriage occurred when he was college-age and was short, it seems incredibly unlikely he'd still be paying out to #1; if his marriage to Bonnie was also short, it also seems unlikely she would receive alimony for so long. It makes more sense if he married them all within the last decade.
Go ahead and try to poke holes in my theories. It only makes them stronger! No, seriously. Go ahead.
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As for Bonnie, I always felt the marriage must have broken up shortly after House's infarction, for obvious reasons ("You always needed him...").
And ditto on the Bonnie thing.
All Wilson says is that the last time he saw him was nine years ago on a random street in a bad neighborhood. It doesn't necessarily mean he's been missing for only nine years.
I need to do my own timeline. We should have a big ol' timeline hootenanny!
Timelines are love!
- Stacy moves in with House a week later (Honeymoon)
You know, I've always wondered if Stacy just wanted a sparring partner, or if House was simply amazing in bed.
Thanks, I just finally managed to stop thinking about Wilson in bed, now this...
I've always assumed that House had been working elsewhere (Cuddy mentions him being fired by multiple hospitals before she took him on), and then took medical leave for the infarction (House seems to rigorously stick to the guidelines for the amount of time he's not able to boss others around -- see 3.01) and was such an asshole because of the procedure that he was fired. I've thought that Wilson, who was working for PPTH, probably appealed to Cuddy to get her to hire him based on his genius, and with the promise that he'd be able to corral the personality that would make him a liability to have on staff. I don't think that pre-S1 Cuddy would've hired House for any other reason, even taking into account the guilt she harbored from the procedure.
Also, sometime around S1, House and Cuddy apparently had a date -- sex or no sex still pending.
...Now I wanna make a timeline, too. Gees.
Also, sometime around S1, House and Cuddy apparently had a date -- sex or no sex still pending.
I thought that was before S1, because it's implied it happened before she hired him (House so egotistically claims she hired him because of the sex in Top Secret).
But then my friends still refer to their 10 year old Lab as a puppy because she still chews on stuff.
I also think that House's curiosity and obnoxious behavior is underestimated when it comes to Wilson's brother. If he knew Wilson at the time (even as only an acquaintance), House would have beat the truth out of him (gotta figure out why Wilson's acting mopey! kind of puzzle).
One could also assume that if the person lied about Hector being house-trained, they could also have lied about the dog's age. I've never had small dogs (to me a 45 lb. dog is small), but don't they live longer and have longer puppyhoods? BTW, notice Hector liked House?
Yes, in Humpty Dumpty. I think that's when they had sex (when Cameron asked, Cuddy completely avoided the question, and when Cuddy does that, it tends to mean it's true).
I think it's far more likely someone lied about Hector being house-trained (or just doing a crappy job at it). The dog could still be 17 years old, but because he's small and cute and new, Bonnie just referred to him as being a puppy (I do that with our chihuahuas...) But it's really such a small point.
BTW, notice Hector liked House?
Yeah. I wish House had fought to keep him. But I love how Wilson was able to tell House secretly liked the dog!
(Tangent: I get why some people think Wilson wasn't around during the infarction, but why do they think he wasn't around when House got shot? Cuddy wasn't in the two minutes of real-time in that episode, either - hey, maybe they were off on vacation in the Poconos together and missed the whole thing! *sarcasm, in case someone misses that*)
average age of entry into medical school now is 25. Nevertheless, let's say wilson goes into med school directly from college at 22, graduates at 26, has three years of residency completed at 29 (he's in internal medicine)(1998), fellowship takes two years landing him at 31 at a minimum for becoming head (2000). This is all assuming that Wilson is 38 at the present time.
That means that Wilson would have to be already working at PPTH in 1996 when, according to your timeline, House is hired. Oh, and as a side note, the only two medical schools in New Jersey are in Newark and Piscataway. Princeton does not have a medical school (so those stories with House, the doctor at PPTH, meeting Wilson the medical school student don't take place in this universe).
There would have been no way for Wilson to influence the decision of House being hired since he would have been a lowly first-year resident in 1996 (not much power in your hands at the time). In fact, I'd be hard-pressed to believe that House would be paying attention to a first-year resident, especially if he's head of Diagnostics (he is pretty arrogant after all). If I had a say, I'd think that the two didn't become friends until at least 1998, if not later. If they meet and become friends in '98, the 2000 timeline with House's infarction and Wilson's subsequent attentiveness fits. If they become friends after Wilson's fellowship, however, they would've barely known each other when the infarction occurred.
Exactly? No idea. Just between the minimum age (31, according to what you said) and and the start of the show (2000-2004, then).
If I had a say, I'd think that the two didn't become friends until at least 1998, if not later. If they meet and become friends in '98, the 2000 timeline with House's infarction and Wilson's subsequent attentiveness fits.
That works for me, too. We can make an educated guess on when they met, but can only speculate when they actually became friends.
Finally, did anyone ever consider that Wilson might have been a ptient of House's. I know it's farfetched but possible.
Finally, did anyone ever consider that Wilson might have been a ptient of House's. I know it's farfetched but possible.
That's an interesting idea. I want this in fic form, now, because I'm too lazy to do it XD
Though now that I think about it, that adds to the problem rather than solving it.
That was my impression, too, which is why I'm leaning towards the blue right now.
Then I had to watch an old episode (Kids, I think), and got hung up on Wilson saying "every woman you've given a damn about," which made it sound like he knew House before Stacy. God I'm so anal >_
Although, I now have an altnerate theory that possibly came about because I think about this show too much: Cuddy slept with House when he was with Stacy. My mind automatically went to that when House made a comment in S3 about not always being faithful to the woman he's dating. That would certainly explain why it was a one-time thing. (But, boo, more Cuddy character assassination.) And why they still seem to have the hots for each other.
Just a random thought!