Constant complaining she can't act,
Are people STILL complaining about this?
While I don't think Echo is as interesting as Whiskey or Adele, I don't think it has anything to do with Eliza's acting abilities. The girl can act!
you know, never mind THERE WOULD BE NO DOLLHOUSE IF NOT FOR ELIZA DUSHKU. It's her show as much as Joss Whedon's.
Exactly! She was the one that got the deal with Fox and then she talked to Joss and decided to work with him. I don't know the details, but Fox offered Eliza a contract first and Eliza wanted to work with Joss so. . . without Eliza, we wouldn't have Dollhouse!
'm trying, and I'm just pulling up more women--Sarah Michelle Gellar on Buffy; Sela Ward, Lisa Edelstein, and Anne Dudek on House (they can ALL act; yes, even LE, she just has shit material and seems pretty happy with it); pretty much each new companion on Doctor Who...
When I was in Buffy fandom, I was shocked at all the hate for Buffy. Yeah, Buffy did some selfish things if you want to call them that (love affair with Spike, not killing Angel when he was Angelus), but I feel that if Buffy was a guy, no one would give her shit for any of her actions.
While LE isn't my favorite person and I don't care for Cuddy as a character, (I think my chances of liking Cuddy ever again are ruined), I think LE can act.
I can't comment on Dexter or Mad Men because I don't watch those shows, but the fan reaction doesn't surprise me. The men are perceived as being "misunderstood" and the women are "oppressing" them. *rolls eyes*
It's the notion of "she doesn't deserve you, but I do" syndrome.
Some people at House Meta had a discussion about that when dark!wilson fic came up (I thought I was the only one that hated dark!wilson before I read that post.) Anyway, they talked about what you're seeing: the misogyny and the person's feelings that only they could understand the "poor misunderstood" male protagonist. :/
Wilson, in this case, is in the place of the "oppressive" female that doesn't understand the male. /
http://community.livejournal.com/housefic_meta/125417.html
Are people STILL complaining about this?
While I don't think Echo is as interesting as Whiskey or Adele, I don't think it has anything to do with Eliza's acting abilities. The girl can act!
you know, never mind THERE WOULD BE NO DOLLHOUSE IF NOT FOR ELIZA DUSHKU. It's her show as much as Joss Whedon's.
Exactly! She was the one that got the deal with Fox and then she talked to Joss and decided to work with him. I don't know the details, but Fox offered Eliza a contract first and Eliza wanted to work with Joss so. . . without Eliza, we wouldn't have Dollhouse!
'm trying, and I'm just pulling up more women--Sarah Michelle Gellar on Buffy; Sela Ward, Lisa Edelstein, and Anne Dudek on House (they can ALL act; yes, even LE, she just has shit material and seems pretty happy with it); pretty much each new companion on Doctor Who...
When I was in Buffy fandom, I was shocked at all the hate for Buffy. Yeah, Buffy did some selfish things if you want to call them that (love affair with Spike, not killing Angel when he was Angelus), but I feel that if Buffy was a guy, no one would give her shit for any of her actions.
While LE isn't my favorite person and I don't care for Cuddy as a character, (I think my chances of liking Cuddy ever again are ruined), I think LE can act.
I can't comment on Dexter or Mad Men because I don't watch those shows, but the fan reaction doesn't surprise me. The men are perceived as being "misunderstood" and the women are "oppressing" them. *rolls eyes*
It's the notion of "she doesn't deserve you, but I do" syndrome.
Some people at House Meta had a discussion about that when dark!wilson fic came up (I thought I was the only one that hated dark!wilson before I read that post.) Anyway, they talked about what you're seeing: the misogyny and the person's feelings that only they could understand the "poor misunderstood" male protagonist. :/
Wilson, in this case, is in the place of the "oppressive" female that doesn't understand the male. /
http://community.livejournal.com/housefic_meta/125417.html
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